Tear-out or insert
Full-Frame or Insert: How Your Olathe Windows Come Out
Most windows we put into Olathe homes go in as inserts, set inside the existing frame. Full frame window replacement, where the old window comes out down to the studs, is for openings with rot, a frame that’s out of square or a change in size. We check every opening and price each one by the method it needs, so you don’t pay for tear-out the house doesn’t need or cover up rot that it does.
Full-frame versus insert, side by side
Full-frame replacement
- Old sash, frame, and usually interior and exterior trim removed
- Opening checked for rot; new sill pan and flashing go in
- Largest glass area the opening allows
- New or reset trim inside, metal wrap over the exterior trim
- More labor and materials, so a higher price per window
Insert (pocket) replacement
- Old sashes and hardware removed; frame stays
- New window sized to slide into the old frame and sealed to it
- Interior trim and paint usually untouched
- Sealed to the old frame with foam; exterior trim wrapped in metal
- Installed well, seals as tightly as a full-frame window
- Gives up a little glass on each edge
What we look for before choosing full frame window replacement
We push on the sill and lower jambs for soft wood, look for stains on the drywall under the window and at the siding below it, and check whether the frame is square by measuring corner to corner. Any one of those can rule out an insert.
Original aluminum frames from older houses are another case. They carry cold straight through to the inside, so setting a new window inside one keeps that cold edge. Those usually come out.
If water has been getting in, an insert only hides the damage. That opening gets torn out and repaired.
Mixing methods on one house
Most houses don’t need the same answer for every opening. A west wall that takes the weather might need full tear-out while the bedrooms on the sheltered side are fine for inserts. We’ll list the method next to each window on the quote. How the method shows up in the price is covered on our cost page.
Full-frame and insert questions
Can you replace windows without replacing the frame?
Yes, if the old frame is solid, square and dry. That’s an insert (also called a pocket replacement). If the frame is soft, out of square or has let water into the wall, it needs to come out.
Does full-frame replacement mean new drywall inside?
Rarely. Interior trim comes off and goes back on, or new trim is installed. Drywall only gets patched when the old frame was nailed through it or there’s water damage behind it.
Does a brick house change the answer?
Often. On brick, the window sits behind the brick mold and the masonry stays put, so inserts are common when the frames are sound. Full-frame on brick is still possible, with new exterior trim cut to fit the brick opening.
More of what we install
- 01Casement WindowsCrank-out sashes that press against the seal when the wind picks up.
- 02Double Hung WindowsBoth sashes move and tilt in, so the outside glass gets cleaned from inside.
- 03Hail Damaged Window ReplacementWhole windows replaced after a storm cracks frames or breaks seals.
- 04Sliding Glass Door ReplacementThe full door unit out, a new one set on a flashed, level sill.
- 05Basement Window ReplacementRusted steel and single-pane basement windows traded for sealed vinyl.
- 06Window replacement costThe Kansas City average and how a written quote breaks down.